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TOWN OF PITTSFORD

PLANNING COMMISSION

 

August 28, 2008

 

Planning Commission Members Present: Don Nickless, and Thor Konwin.  Absent: Kathryn Brown.  Others Present:Amy Loomis, Tom Carrara, Ed Davis, Eric Reibsane

 

D. Nickless, Chair, called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM. 

 

Public Comment

 

D. Nickless inquired if there was any Public Comment.  T. Carrara inquired of the past meeting with OMYA.  D. Nickless explained the status of the de-watering facility project and other topics that were discussed.  There are other products that could be substituted  for calcium carbonate but none now compete on price. There has been no indication that this could change is in the near future.  T. Konwin stated that there are 150 full-time employees and an average of 150 sub-contractor people that are employed at OMYA.  D. Nickless explained the reasons why OMYA may not be able to expand, trucking being one of the main reasons, with rail being explored as an alternative option. 

 

Ed Davis Autos & RV's, 5264 U.S. Route 7, Pittsford, VT Site Plan Review

 

Ed Davis explained that he would like to sell used cars at the site that he is currently using for camper sales located on Route 7 north to supplement current sales at the site.  The driving range has not had a good year and possibly may not open in the future.  John Rudnicki is the owner of the property.  The driving range will be closing on Labor Day, September 1, 2008.  The auto business will be a year round business.  Mr. Davis stated that he is looking to have approximately 25 autos on the lot.  Mr. Davis explained that there was sales potential due to the traffic flow along Route 7.  Mr. Davis stated that the vehicles would be newer models, varying in mileage. 

 

A. Loomis inquired if there would be any maintenance performed on the site.  Mr. Davis stated that the only work that would be done would be some washing of the vehicles.  A. Loomis inquired what Mr. Davis referred to when he mentioned "trucks" in his application.  Mr. Davis stated that the "trucks" would be of the pick-up version and nothing larger. 

 

"D. Nickless inquired that Mr. Davis stated that he has "DMV permit indicated on his application.  Mr. Davis stated that it is not required to have a "DMV" permit in the state.  A. Loomis stated that a copy of the permit would be needed for the file.  Mr. Davis stated t that he currently has a permit for the campers and would be filing an application for the vehicles and would forward a copy to A. Loomis.

 

T. Konwin inquired what would happen with the trailers in the wintertime.  Mr. Davis stated that there would possibly be a "few lookers" in the winter, but, the majority of the business would be the autos. 

 

A. Loomis inquired the distance from Route 7 to the location of the vehicles.  Mr. Davis explained the distance would be approximately 40 feet, being the same as with the trailers.  Mr. Davis stated that he would like to keep the distances uniform and does not feel that there would be a "blind spot" upon entering or exiting Route 7.  Mr. Davis would like to keep the cars at 40 feet since they would then be on the gravel parking area and not the grass. 

 

T. Konwin inquired if the gravel area is for snow removal.  Mr. Davis stated that this would make snow removal easier.  A. Loomis inquired if there would be additional gravel deposited on the site.  Mr. Davis stated that there is a good base there now.  A. Loomis inquired if there would be any additional lighting installed at the location.  Mr. Davis stated that there would be no additional lighting. 

 

D. Nickless inquired if there would be a full-time person at the site.  Mr. Davis explained that there would be someone there. 

 

A. Loomis stated that the RV business appeared to be closed upon her visit on August 27.  Mr. Davis explained that he has had some family issues and the business was closed due to these issues. 

 

A. Loomis inquired who would be maintaining the property.  Mr. Davis stated that there is a groundskeeper and he would continue as the groundskeeper to keep the property maintained.  There is a possibility of 1 additional employee to operate the used auto business.

 

Mr. Davis stated that he feels that this is a good location and would possibly like to purchase the property in the future. 

 

Motion to close the hearing. 

 

D. Nickless explained to Mr. Davis that there are 45-days to respond to the application.

 

Eric Reibsane Site Plan Review

 

D. Nickless stated that this was for a home occupation located at 125 Deerfield Acres.  A. Loomis stated that the agenda was posted in 3 public places, as well as letters mailed to the abutting property owners on August 20, 2008.

 

A. Loomis stated that Mr. Reibsane is interested in using a small portion of his home for an ammunition reloading area.  Mr. Reibsane is located in a rural district.  Mr. Reibsane stated in his application that there would be no additional employees and that the ammunition would be sold through dealers and not from the home, deliveries would be through either Federal Express or UPS. 

 

A. Loomis stated that the current Zoning Regulations require 2 additional parking spaces.

 

A. Loomis stated that Mr. Reibsane is currently in the process of obtaining the proper permits through the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.  A. Loomis has spoken with the ATF and noted that Mr. Reibsane would be handling only smokeless powder. 

 

D. Nickless asked Mr. Reibsane to explain smokeless powder as opposed to black powder.  Mr. Reibsane explained the differences of the powders and the containers that these powders are sold in to the general public.

 

D. Nickless inquired if there are any Federal or State regulations for the storage of these powders.  Mr. Reibsane explained that only the Department of Transportation regulates transportation and storage containers.  Mr. Reibsane explained that the ATF has no storage regulations.

 

Mr. Reibsane explained pictures that he presented with the application.  There was discussion regarding the process and shipping of the product.  Mr. Reibsane stated that he would be below the 20-pound maximum allowed.

 

D. Nickless inquired as to the insurance requirements.  Mr. Reibsane explained that an additional umbrella policy would be required and this would be obtained after all the required permits are in place. 

 

Mr. Reibsane explained that an ATF permit is required prior to selling any ammunition otherwise selling would be illegal.  Mr. Reibsane stated that this application and permit is a "class 6."

 

There was discussion regarding the amount of the residence that would be used.  Mr. Reibsane stated that this would be a workbench in the basement.  A. Loomis inquired if there would be a sign.  Mr. Reibsane stated that there would be no signage due to covenants within the development. 

 

T. Konwin inquired if there would be any employees.  Mr. Reibsane stated that there would be no employees.

 

A. Loomis inquired if there would be any traffic increase, lighting, or fumes - all of which Mr. Reibsane denied.  A. Loomis inquired about deliveries.  Mr. Reibsane stated that the maximum delivery would be once every 2 weeks at maximum.  Mr. Reibsane explained that there are hazardous materials fees that are imposed each time a shipment is received.

 

T. Konwin inquired how the final product would be shipped.  Mr. Reibsane stated that he is looking to use a local dealer to sell his product and is looking to keep this venture small.  T. Konwin inquired as to the rarity of the products he would produce which would allow him to compete with large manufacturers.  Mr. Reibsane explained that he would be producing unusual calipers which are sometimes difficult to find. He also explained the movement from lead to other metals for hunting as this trend is growing.

 

D. Nickless inquired what material was replacing the lead.  Mr. Reibsane stated that pure copper is replacing the lead because it is similar in weight.  Mr. Reibsane explained the processing of the materials and the making of the ammunition.

 

T. Carrara inquired if the materials had any explosives marking.  Mr. Reibsane stated that there are DOT (Department of Transportation) warning triangles on the shipping containers.

 

D. Nickless inquired if the business were to take off, what would he do.  Mr. Reibsane stated that this is more of a hobby instead of a business.

 

A. Loomis inquired what the difference would be between a house with powder stored and a house with no powder, in the event of a fire.  Mr. Reibsane stated that the product would burn fast and turn into gas.  Mr. Reibsane stated that this product is no more dangerous than a can of gas or an aerosol can.

 

T. Carrara inquired if the product would be locked up.  Mr. Reibsane stated that the material would be stored in a "tool box" due to the fact that the product cannot be stored airtight.  Mr. Carrara expressed concern for children in the area.   

 

Motion to close the hearing. 

 

D. Nickless explained to Mr. Reibsane that there are 45-days to have the results presented.

 

Other Business

 

A. Loomis presented a Mylar site map of the Dan Adams property located on Deerfield Acres.  Mr. Adams had indicated that the lot lines were adjusted on September 11, 2006.  D. Nickless inquired if this was for a sub-division.  A. Loomis stated that the change was between lots 2 and 3.  There was discussion regarding the letter that was sent by the previous Zoning Administrator.  A. Loomis stated that there was correspondence received from Mr. Adams' attorney requesting a statement that the lot lines were adjusted after the permit was approved.  A. Loomis will research the lot line information and will report back to the Planning Commission.   

 

The next meeting will be held on September 25, 2008 at 7:00 PM.

 

Meeting adjourned at  approximately 8:25PM

 

Respectfully Submitted

 

 

Kelly Giard, Recording Secretary

                                                      

Don Nickless, Chair

Thor Konwin, Vice Chair

Kathryn Brown   - ABSENT

 



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